Kelly ([info]lama_mama) wrote in [info]ontd_startrek,
2009-10-13 17:41:00
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Can I get a "OH HELL NO"?

Also posted at my journal, but I figured it was relevant to this comm's interests

Found this fail-tastic article from the entry about it today at Smart Bitches, Trashy Books. Basically it argues that sci fi has been taken over by the womenfolk and the gays and this is omg bad since, naturally, sci fi has always been about killing aliens and blowing up stuff, not relationships and the human condition, and this will no doubt turn our children gay. *insert sarcastic eye roll here* Oh, and the author mentions Kirk and Spock as the origins of slash in a derogatory manner.

Just a small sample of the epic fail that is "The War On Science Fiction and Marvin Minsky":

"As we know science fiction has inspired boys to pursue careers in science, engineering, and technology as men. With women killing science fiction on television, the current generation of boys won’t have this opportunity to be inspired to work in these fields. There is still a great deal of written science fiction that is real science fiction so all is not lost. However, many boys who would have gone on to make scientific discoveries and invent new technologies will not do so since they will never be inspired by science fiction as boys."

I don't even know where to begin with this, I'm so pissed off.



SO, COMM. LET'S TURN HOMOPHOBIA AND MISOGYNY LEMONS INTO LEMONADE. I WANT TO SEE YOUR FINEST GURL POWER/EPIC SLASH/JUST SUPER HAPPY AND FUN GIFS, MACROS, WHATEVER! HATERS TO THE LEFT, Y'ALL.

EDIT: Finally got my act together and made a macro

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[info]bee_yes

October 14 2009, 00:54:25 UTC 2 years ago

WHAT. I don't know where to start with this either. I'll be back when I can form coherent thought. What a douchebag.

[info]ilovejunk

October 14 2009, 01:49:05 UTC 2 years ago

bb I totally made your icon! Or we both made the same one. Either way, <3Ringo<3

[info]sapphire908

October 14 2009, 00:57:17 UTC 2 years ago

Wow that has got to be one of the DUMBEST things I have ever read in my entire life. I think I lost brain cells reading that fuckery.

[info]ayeellelleye

October 14 2009, 00:57:29 UTC 2 years ago

well thank goodness for males. where would we be in science, engineering, and technology without them? I MEAN REALLY.


this hbic is just laughing it all away cause she knows wtf is up.

[info]myselftheliar

October 14 2009, 00:57:36 UTC 2 years ago

SO ANGRY I HAD TO MAKE A MACRO

[info]hellolittledear

October 14 2009, 01:04:09 UTC 2 years ago

Re: SO ANGRY I HAD TO MAKE A MACRO

HA! AWESOME.

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[info]wendies

October 14 2009, 00:57:51 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  October 14 2009, 01:00:57 UTC



WHAT IN THE FUCK?

That's bullshit.


Karl doesn't know what to say to this...

[info]hook_and_line

October 14 2009, 01:12:34 UTC 2 years ago

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fuck yes! worth repeating!

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[info]hook_and_line

October 14 2009, 00:58:33 UTC 2 years ago

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON WHY THIS SONG JUST CAME ON MY SHUFFLE.



ALL I CAN SAY TO THESE BOYS WHO THINK LIKE THIS (AND YES, BOYS, NOT MEN, NEVER MEN) IS

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[info]illogical_me

October 14 2009, 00:59:25 UTC 2 years ago

THE FAILBOAT CLEARLY HAS SAILED IN THAT ARTICLE

BIG FONT IS FOR YELLING.


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YOU LOSE SIR GOOD DAY

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GET HIM OFF THE SHIP, GODDAMN.

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FLAIL OF allergic reactionRAGE

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EFF YOU.

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LIKE A KNIFE IN THE BACK

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NO BLAH BLAH BLAH



[info]illogical_me

October 14 2009, 00:59:46 UTC 2 years ago

Re: THE FAILBOAT CLEARLY HAS SAILED IN THAT ARTICLE

this has got to be the most ridic comment i have ever made.

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[info]meiou_set

October 14 2009, 01:01:03 UTC 2 years ago

[info]emmaraikou

October 14 2009, 01:01:10 UTC 2 years ago

WTF

TOO MANY LADIES & GHEY? TORCHWOOD WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THIS SHIT. SRSLY, LOOK AT THESE BAMFS, GODDAMN.






[info]marisahsaaaa

October 14 2009, 01:05:45 UTC 2 years ago

Re: WTF

OH SHI--

That second video has ladies AND gay! WHAT DO WE DO?!

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[info]hellolittledear

October 14 2009, 01:02:45 UTC 2 years ago

AHAHA WHAT. WHEN WAS SCI FI EVER NOT ABOUT THE HUMAN CONDITION.

I WANNA GRAB THIS FAILURE AND


BUT INSTEAD, I'LL SPREAD GQ LOVE WITH FLOWERS

[info]mindwar

October 14 2009, 01:49:22 UTC 2 years ago

ikr? like, duh.
your gifs make me lol.

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[info]chemikalien

October 14 2009, 01:03:17 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  October 14 2009, 01:03:59 UTC



WELL EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE ME.

[info]greatbriton

October 14 2009, 01:09:40 UTC 2 years ago

lol

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[info]meiou_set

October 14 2009, 01:04:16 UTC 2 years ago

[info]gmonkey42

October 14 2009, 03:12:44 UTC 2 years ago

HEATHERS! :D I love that movie!

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[info]akscully

October 14 2009, 01:04:35 UTC 2 years ago

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

YEAH, RAY BRADBURY AND ISAAC ASIMOV NEVER WROTE ABOUT THE HUMAN CONDITION AND RELATIONSHIPS AND FEEEEEEEEEELINGS. IT WAS ALL HARD SCI-FI ALL THE TIME.

HOLY.

SHIT.

[info]myselftheliar

October 14 2009, 01:09:21 UTC 2 years ago

THOSE "FEELINGS" WERE JUST METAPHORS FOR ROCKETS, ROBOTS, AND METALLIC PENISES, OK!?

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[info]withered_shadow

October 14 2009, 22:56:15 UTC 2 years ago

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[info]greatbriton

October 14 2009, 01:06:29 UTC 2 years ago

Cause Classic SciFi wasn't Gay At All

I don't... I can't even....

WUT?






[info]ahkna

October 14 2009, 01:35:19 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Cause Classic SciFi wasn't Gay At All

AERYN GIF. My life is complete!

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[info]chill_serve

October 14 2009, 01:06:34 UTC 2 years ago

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[info]fearmycorbomite

October 14 2009, 01:49:56 UTC 2 years ago

This gif owns my life.

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[info]serai1

October 14 2009, 01:06:35 UTC 2 years ago

WHAT A FUCKING MORON.

Gee, I think there are a few people who'd argue with this troglodyte. A few folks like, say, Norman Spinrad and Robert Silverberg and Harlan Ellison and Theodore Sturgeon (if he were still around, bless his heart) and Arthur C. Clarke (ditto)...people with, you know, A FUCKING BRAIN OR TWO AMONGST THEM.

The fact that he sees science fiction as all about the gizmos and the testosterone just goes to show that he really knows very little about the subject at all. So that tells me what amount of my attention his idiot rantings deserve - NONE AT ALL.

[info]eddiesteddy4711

October 14 2009, 07:36:18 UTC 2 years ago

I know, right?

My understanding has always been that science fiction is focused primarily on the human condition, using technology as the backdrop and catalyst for events unfolding in the story.

And anyway, who wants to sit and read a book that's nothing but technobabble?

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[info]_____faith

October 14 2009, 01:07:43 UTC 2 years ago

OBVIOUSLY

somebody is angry that he never gets any vagine

[info]chill_serve

October 14 2009, 01:44:49 UTC 2 years ago

Re: OBVIOUSLY

by jove i think you've got it lol

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[info]hook_and_line

October 14 2009, 01:09:36 UTC 2 years ago

oh! i wasn't finished...

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barbara is disaproving

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even larry david's pissed.

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and random alien woman is pissed.

lastly:

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and FIN.

[info]horizongold

October 14 2009, 01:09:44 UTC 2 years ago

WHAT THE FUCK. HELL NO MAN THAT IS NOT COOL!

[info]megret22

October 14 2009, 01:09:44 UTC 2 years ago

HOLY... THAT ARTICLE IS SUCH A LOAD OF BULLSHIT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START.

IT MAKES ME WANT TO CHANGE MY MAJOR TO BIOCHEM AND FIND THE CURE FOR CANCER OR SOMETHING. TOO BAD IT'S ALREADY TOO LATE FOR ME TO DO THAT.

BUT SERIOUSLY, SHOW THIS TO ANY OF THE SCIENCE MAJORS AT MY ALL-WOMEN'S COLLEGE AND THEY'LL CUT A BITCH. SHOW THIS TO ANY SCI-FI FANS AT MY COLLEGE AND THEY'LL GO APOPLECTIC.

SERIOUSLY, NO.

JUST NO.

[info]called_it_fate

October 14 2009, 03:08:42 UTC 2 years ago

To be completely off-topic, your icon ROCKS MY WORLD, BB.

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[info]hikaye

October 14 2009, 01:09:47 UTC 2 years ago

NO FUCK NO
CHRISTIAN BALE'S ANGER EXEMPLIFIES MY FEELINGS ABOUT THESE STATEMENTS.

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October 14 2009, 01:16:53 UTC 2 years ago

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[info]chemikalien

October 14 2009, 01:10:16 UTC 2 years ago

"Many men working in the fields of science, engineering, and technology have cited science fiction (such as the original Star Trek) for inspiring them when they were boys to establish careers in these fields."

Wasn't Star Trek one of the first shows to show women in a more professional role? Yeah, a lot of them were yeomen, but I'm pretty sure I saw a lot of WOMEN SCIENTISTS AND MEDICAL OFFICERS AND ENGINEERS ABOARD THE FUCKING ENTERPRISE.

[info]hellolittledear

October 14 2009, 01:44:52 UTC 2 years ago

THIS.

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[info]___meteorain

October 14 2009, 01:11:15 UTC 2 years ago

WHATTHEFUCK!!! Don't they know that science, engineering, and technology is ALREADY FRIGGIN' MALE-DOMINATED?! The issue here isn't that enough "boys" aren't in getting into those fields - THE PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ENOUGH WOMEN are heading into those fields! And when they DO, they often face DISCRIMINATION!! I know a few female friends in those professions and, while they are seing more females entering into those types of fields, the ratio is STILL 8 girls:50guys!

Of course, numerical representation isn't enough nor is it accurate. But I can DEFINITELY tell you that the women I know who have entered into engineering/science/technology ARE CONTRIBUTING TREMENDOUSLY to them.

[info]gmonkey42

October 14 2009, 03:25:07 UTC 2 years ago

A lot of life science grad school programs are actually >50% women now; I don't know how widespread that is but I get the impression it's pretty common. In my program, marine science (which includes various oceanography labs, ichthyology, phycology, inverts/molecular bio and my vertebrate ecology lab - O HAI FRIENDLY SEAL!) it's roughly 10:1 women to men.

BUT our tenured faculty? 100% male. That's the problem we're running into now: we're getting closer to parity among students in science but there's still rampant discrimination against women when it comes to the coveted academic appointments.

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October 14 2009, 01:11:56 UTC 2 years ago



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October 14 2009, 08:24:16 UTC 2 years ago

A+!

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